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Post by brickmanDan on Tue 9 Feb - 15:25

Im loading a batch 7mmMag hunting rounds for a friend of mine and am shocked at how much powder is required for these. Funny thing is he never shoots past 50-75 yards but thinks he needs Magnum capabilities. Best i can figure hes only going to get around 100 loads for a pound of powder. Screw that! I would change calibers if thats all i got out of a pound. Dang stuff is to hard to come by to waste it all on magnum ammo IMO. Glad hes buying it for sure.

Im also loading some 300 whisper subsonic ammo for use in a suspressed AR platform. First time ive ever dabbled in subsonic reloading, dont seem any different than any other caliber though. Damn dies were 80 bucks! Hornandy is the only company that offeres them. Glad I didnt have to buy 'em.....I wouldntve bought them to tell you the truth.

Im starting off with a 220 gr pill in front of about 8 grains of AA no.9....I sure hope the bullet makes out the barrel.....lol

Any suggestions??

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Post by ronryder on Tue 9 Feb - 19:42

Oh, it will make it out the barrel for sure.

I know there is the "sneaky pete" aspect of that round, but IIRC, a few guys were using it in half size pistol silhouette back when it first came out, and used it in T C contenders.

Might even have been a few playing with it in the classic lead bullet game, IE Coors and Shuetzen type events.

Figuring that 8 grains of Unique, in a 240 grain 44 or 250 grain in a 45 LC, makes a rather "snuffy" mid range load, it may offer more down range energy than one might imagine.

Unique is a bit faster than #9, but it gives a comparison that more might be familiar with.

I have never loaded the round, but off hand, looking at similar rounds, seems to me like that load would near be swift enough to make the supressor a moot point, or at least I thought that was the idea behind the round. Or am I off base on that?

What velocity does your chart give for that particular load?

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Post by brickmanDan on Tue 9 Feb - 20:45

ronryder wrote:

What velocity does your chart give for that particular load?


#9 8.2 gr(max) 1056 (velocity) 18,000 P.S.I. 220 gr pill

I think ill reduce the load 10% starting out. When i set out to load these I didnt realize until now that 8.2 gr was the MAX. Thanks for making me take a look again Ron

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Post by ronryder on Wed 10 Feb - 15:58

Thats so close to the edge, (of the speed of sound) I am thinking a guy would have to actually check the velocity on any given barrel length.

Where are you finding your data?

thats one thing I need to do, man, there are dozens of new factory rounds out, since I bought my last manual.

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Post by brickmanDan on Wed 10 Feb - 17:50

ronryder wrote:Thats so close to the edge, (of the speed of sound) I am thinking a guy would have to actually check the velocity on any given barrel length.

Where are you finding your data?

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I started here and just clicked around on different links from within the page. There is a 300 whisper Forum also linked to that site.

Im finding that in order to keep the round just under subsonic and also have the ability to operate the action of an AR style rifle with a "can" is a very fine line. Probably going to be quite a bit of trial and error to get it just right. Sounds like fun for sure.

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Post by towerclimber on Wed 10 Feb - 21:01

brickmanDan wrote:Im loading a batch 7mmMag hunting rounds for a friend of mine and am shocked at how much powder is required for these. Funny thing is he never shoots past 50-75 yards but thinks he needs Magnum capabilities. Best i can figure hes only going to get around 100 loads for a pound of powder. Screw that! I would change calibers if thats all i got out of a pound. Dang stuff is to hard to come by to waste it all on magnum ammo IMO. Glad hes buying it for sure.

Im also loading some 300 whisper subsonic ammo for use in a suspressed AR platform. First time ive ever dabbled in subsonic reloading, dont seem any different than any other caliber though. Damn dies were 80 bucks! Hornandy is the only company that offeres them. Glad I didnt have to buy 'em.....I wouldntve bought them to tell you the truth.

Im starting off with a 220 gr pill in front of about 8 grains of AA no.9....I sure hope the bullet makes out the barrel.....lol

Any suggestions??


Yes..a couple of suggestions. I hope this guy is buying the materials and giving them to you, and you're giving him a GIFT of this ammunition.
otherwise you're in violation of a federal manufacturing law.

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Post by brickmanDan on Thu 11 Feb - 0:08

towerclimber wrote:
brickmanDan wrote:Im loading a batch 7mmMag hunting rounds for a friend of mine and am shocked at how much powder is required for these. Funny thing is he never shoots past 50-75 yards but thinks he needs Magnum capabilities. Best i can figure hes only going to get around 100 loads for a pound of powder. Screw that! I would change calibers if thats all i got out of a pound. Dang stuff is to hard to come by to waste it all on magnum ammo IMO. Glad hes buying it for sure.

Im also loading some 300 whisper subsonic ammo for use in a suspressed AR platform. First time ive ever dabbled in subsonic reloading, dont seem any different than any other caliber though. Damn dies were 80 bucks! Hornandy is the only company that offeres them. Glad I didnt have to buy 'em.....I wouldntve bought them to tell you the truth.

Im starting off with a 220 gr pill in front of about 8 grains of AA no.9....I sure hope the bullet makes out the barrel.....lol

Any suggestions??


Yes..a couple of suggestions. I hope this guy is buying the materials and giving them to you, and you're giving him a GIFT of this ammunition.
otherwise you're in violation of a federal manufacturing law.



It is a gift Tower.....even if it wasnt.....F'em!!! cant do nothing anymore that isnt considered illegal,immoral or fattening seems like.

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Post by ronryder on Thu 11 Feb - 16:16

Im lost for sure now, how is giving anyone reloaded ammo, a federal rap?

that ones news to me, of course I confess since I gave up my FFL years back, as too not paying much attention.

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Post by Joe B. on Thu 11 Feb - 16:40

ronryder wrote:Im lost for sure now, how is giving anyone reloaded ammo, a federal rap?

that ones news to me, of course I confess since I gave up my FFL years back, as too not paying much attention.
Taxes....simply money. If a man buys his own components and you only charge him labor, it is income you are supposed to report but entirely legal. But if you buy the components and sell him the ammo complete and suddenly you are a remanurfacturer failing to pay the 5% excise tax, not to mention collecting sales tax and forwarding it to the state. And the federal charge is (re)manufacturing ammo without proper licensing.

If you do not charge anything then you are only liable for damages if the ammo causes or is judged to cause damage to the gun or the shooter. I don't reload for anyone but myself. No matter how much a friend swears he won't hold you responsible, when the medical bills pile up, you will get sued. Count on it.

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