Old model blackhawk safety conv.

**brickmanDan** · by **brickmanDan** on Tue 27 Jul - 13:46

Ive found a really nice single six 3screw with box that looks damn nigh mint. Serial number indicates its a 1970's era weapon. Im wondering if its possible to tell withoout disassembly if the safety conversion has been done? Ive been told that in original condition the older blackhawks does bring somewhat a premium...this is why im asking.

Joe B. · by Joe B. on Tue 27 Jul - 17:23

If there is a flat bar that comes up between hammer and firing pin when the trigger is pulled it has the factory modification. If not it is suggested to carry with only 5 rounds and hammer down on the empty.
If you send it to the factory for any reason they will do the mod, whether you want it or not.

PS: On modified revolvers the hammer rests on the frame with trigger relaxed and the firing pin does not protrude from the breechface.

**brickmanDan** · by **brickmanDan** on Tue 27 Jul - 17:42

Joe B. wrote:If there is a flat bar that comes up between hammer and firing pin when the trigger is pulled it has the factory modification. If not it is suggested to carry with only 5 rounds and hammer down on the empty.
If you send it to the factory for any reason they will do the mod, whether you want it or not.

PS: On modified revolvers the hammer rests on the frame with trigger relaxed and the firing pin does not protrude from the breechface.

thanks Joe! I wonder if Ruger will send old parts back to a person after the modification?

4tsmith · by 4tsmith on Tue 27 Jul - 19:03

There seems to be another tier of value on the unaltered three screw guns.If carried properly there is no issue for anyone but a lawyer or a Bradyite.(I actually bought my Rossi 62 SA pump because the safety is the CORRECT half cock hammer)

If you do anything factory Ruger,confirm,confirm,confirm and then maybe get a fax first.They will do this safety switch for free,but they are very STIFF on ANY modification to the original platform.
(They seem to be reluctant about anything that might let you change lanes on the liability highway and they will give you chapter and verse on ATF REPORTED AS RELEASED FOR DISTIBUTION standards.Or as I understand thier policy,any change to the basic format reported for that serial#for instance DAO to DA/SA..etc.but even for safety that might include the old parts)
They will however tell you up front if you ask.

ronryder · by ronryder on Tue 27 Jul - 21:03

They were sending them back, as least as late as the last one I sent in, lets say 2002 or so.

There is a small after market collectors interest in the original parts.

I have heard the cost ratio of added cost of the selling price, to simply pay for the ambulance chasers, but I dont recall the number, 15 % or something perhaps?

4tsmith · by 4tsmith on Wed 28 Jul - 2:35

When I think of the hard core Ruger SA owners I've known it's a lot like hot rods I chopped up in the day.I wish I'd left more than a few of them alone and restored or preserved them to original condition.

It's really not much different than finding a perfect 4-5 inch SW. model 19 or 28 at a gun show and promptly sending it off to have the new key lock safety installed because they offered to do it for free.Maybe it might even be time to send that pristine Singer or Remington 1911 off for the series 80 safety upgrade.

Why not stick with Bill Rugers original marketing genius and count those small classic blessings.
Thats right Johnny grandpa got this one with three screws clear back before you had to submit a form HE-11-666 just to change the grips or front sight.( don't tell grandma I let you touch a deadly single action assault pistol that does'nt even have a common sense child resistant safety,shucks I'd never hear the end of it)Paleez!! affraid

Joe B. · by Joe B. on Wed 28 Jul - 10:24

brickmanDan wrote:
Joe B. wrote:If there is a flat bar that comes up between hammer and firing pin when the trigger is pulled it has the factory modification. If not it is suggested to carry with only 5 rounds and hammer down on the empty.
If you send it to the factory for any reason they will do the mod, whether you want it or not.

PS: On modified revolvers the hammer rests on the frame with trigger relaxed and the firing pin does not protrude from the breechface.

thanks Joe! I wonder if Ruger will send old parts back to a person after the modification?

I don't think they will. I believe they keep the parts so you won't put it back to original.

ronryder · by ronryder on Wed 28 Jul - 11:50

I know they used to send them back, but if they now do not, that does not surprise me. As said, its been several years since I sent one in.

And the hilarious part is, the old classic Colt, when the rare times they produce them, or at least Uberti maybe makes them, (as many allege) are still as "dangerous" as ever.

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