They're soldiers..they should be ARMED!!!!!
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They're soldiers..they should be ARMED!!!!!
Regarding the mass shootings in Ft. Hood, Texas. For God's sake, arm our soldiers at all times with a sidearm loaded and ready to rock! Why not? Our soldiers have many, many deadly enemies. Enemies that are not all in other countries.
Think about it. Any of our soldiers, either in uniform or on a military base, are automatically linked as being members of our military whose job it is to fight and often kill our enemies. Now usually this fighting and killing goes on in foreign countries. But those enemies that our military is fighting and killing have friends, relatives and fellow terrorists right here in America. What better way to strike back at our military than for one of those "martyrs" to get onto a military base (petty easy) and smuggle in firearms (pretty easy) and then at the right time just simply open fire on unarmed, defenseless soldiers as they sleep, work, go to chow, or just generally go about their business while unarmed. My God, it is such an easy, effective and fool-proof plan(for a martyr) to get revenge against the American military that I sadly predict it will happen numerous times in the future.
To put this into perspective, can you imagine the howls of protest if suddenly all the police in America were required to disarm themselves when the higher ups thought those police were safe? Such as when the police are off duty and going home or at the station and there were no visible bad guys around? Or when there was a lull in local crimes and the higher ups felt there would be no violent crime for the foreseeable future? Well, that is how American soldiers are treated. If those soldiers are on a US Military base and the higher ups decide there is no danger, all the soldiers firearms are locked up. This is even true in foreign combat zones such as the Green Zone in Iraqi.
Folks, this is madness to disarm American soldiers. If someone is actually able to predict the time and location of the next violent attack against American soldiers, then that predictor needs to use their power of seeing into the future and just buy themselves a winning lottery ticket, win millions and then retire and let the real soldiers do their job. Or, if someone is able to predict the next violent attack by terrorists, shouldn't everyone just stay home that day? (sarcasm)
Bottom line, in the modern world with all its unpredictable dangers, arm each and every soldier with at least a sidearm. The dangerous ones will soon be taken out by the vast majority who are no threat and will now be armed. What could make more sense?
Think about it. Any of our soldiers, either in uniform or on a military base, are automatically linked as being members of our military whose job it is to fight and often kill our enemies. Now usually this fighting and killing goes on in foreign countries. But those enemies that our military is fighting and killing have friends, relatives and fellow terrorists right here in America. What better way to strike back at our military than for one of those "martyrs" to get onto a military base (petty easy) and smuggle in firearms (pretty easy) and then at the right time just simply open fire on unarmed, defenseless soldiers as they sleep, work, go to chow, or just generally go about their business while unarmed. My God, it is such an easy, effective and fool-proof plan(for a martyr) to get revenge against the American military that I sadly predict it will happen numerous times in the future.
To put this into perspective, can you imagine the howls of protest if suddenly all the police in America were required to disarm themselves when the higher ups thought those police were safe? Such as when the police are off duty and going home or at the station and there were no visible bad guys around? Or when there was a lull in local crimes and the higher ups felt there would be no violent crime for the foreseeable future? Well, that is how American soldiers are treated. If those soldiers are on a US Military base and the higher ups decide there is no danger, all the soldiers firearms are locked up. This is even true in foreign combat zones such as the Green Zone in Iraqi.
Folks, this is madness to disarm American soldiers. If someone is actually able to predict the time and location of the next violent attack against American soldiers, then that predictor needs to use their power of seeing into the future and just buy themselves a winning lottery ticket, win millions and then retire and let the real soldiers do their job. Or, if someone is able to predict the next violent attack by terrorists, shouldn't everyone just stay home that day? (sarcasm)
Bottom line, in the modern world with all its unpredictable dangers, arm each and every soldier with at least a sidearm. The dangerous ones will soon be taken out by the vast majority who are no threat and will now be armed. What could make more sense?
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Re: They're soldiers..they should be ARMED!!!!!
I agree with you 100% Our soldiers should be armed at all times with a sidearm and have one in the chamber... 

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Re: They're soldiers..they should be ARMED!!!!!
For a police officer to be unarmed is to be out of uniform. But even back in the first gulf war under George Bush Sr., there were reports we had men guarding our ammo supply dumps over there with unloaded M16s.
I guess they would have to court martial me because if I was issued an order for guard duty, unarmed, in a foreign war zone, guarding supplies that a re a hot target for the enemy, I would either steal ammo out of the supplies or refuse the duty.
Repeat after me, "Our government does not trust its own soldiers with loaded weapons, unless battle with enemy forces is deemed imminent." Then disarm them as quickly as possible and after discharge try to disarm them for the rest of their lives, if they can draw up some cockamamie excuse that he or she is emotionally unstable and suffering mental anquish and post traumatic stress disorder, even when they are not.
I guess they would have to court martial me because if I was issued an order for guard duty, unarmed, in a foreign war zone, guarding supplies that a re a hot target for the enemy, I would either steal ammo out of the supplies or refuse the duty.
Repeat after me, "Our government does not trust its own soldiers with loaded weapons, unless battle with enemy forces is deemed imminent." Then disarm them as quickly as possible and after discharge try to disarm them for the rest of their lives, if they can draw up some cockamamie excuse that he or she is emotionally unstable and suffering mental anquish and post traumatic stress disorder, even when they are not.
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But Joe, wouldn't you be suffering too from "mental anguish and post traumatic stress disorder" if your ass was on the front line where the shooting is and your own government tells you that your not allowed to do what you need to do in order to win? When you have 20 year old pilots flying planes their dads flew and scrambling around looking for ammo or a hot meal it tends to give one stress.
Then if you survive all that and finally get home and your own government classifies you as a possible terrorist and a 3rd class citizen and half the population look at you like your some kind of drugged up pervert baby killer it tends to give one a good feeling doesn't it.
The amazing thing to me is that still with all this first class treatment they get that there are still so many who would still sign up to put their ass on the line for a country and a government who treats them like that. Personally while i might sign on to protect my country from invaders, i would never sign on to protect a corrupt government that we now have from any attack, especially one from its own people.
Then if you survive all that and finally get home and your own government classifies you as a possible terrorist and a 3rd class citizen and half the population look at you like your some kind of drugged up pervert baby killer it tends to give one a good feeling doesn't it.
The amazing thing to me is that still with all this first class treatment they get that there are still so many who would still sign up to put their ass on the line for a country and a government who treats them like that. Personally while i might sign on to protect my country from invaders, i would never sign on to protect a corrupt government that we now have from any attack, especially one from its own people.
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Re: They're soldiers..they should be ARMED!!!!!
I think prior to jumping the gun here. You should do a little research.
things you may want to check is spousal abuse. Drug use
and stress disorders. Certainly there are a great number of career military who could and should be allowed to carry locked and loaded
But there are a great number of folks in the military who should not
the military is a microcosm of our society in general. Not at all sure a blanket arming of our military in a state side environment is all that great of idea. I can Remember when king was killed. They're were a number of racial gunfights in rear areas in Vietnam, Can you imagine the carnage if the pretender/ messiah were assassinated.
things you may want to check is spousal abuse. Drug use
and stress disorders. Certainly there are a great number of career military who could and should be allowed to carry locked and loaded
But there are a great number of folks in the military who should not
the military is a microcosm of our society in general. Not at all sure a blanket arming of our military in a state side environment is all that great of idea. I can Remember when king was killed. They're were a number of racial gunfights in rear areas in Vietnam, Can you imagine the carnage if the pretender/ messiah were assassinated.
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Re: They're soldiers..they should be ARMED!!!!!
when I first came to Fallon around 1985, NAS had an active trap and skeet field. The CO actually allowed civilians to enter the base and shoot most any time the field was open.
Of course the CO changes every couple of years, and they got one that hated guns, and he had the fields shut down and dozed over. What was an odd deal, that at that time, one of the men tasked to "demil" those fields, (under extreme protest) became after he retired in 95, one of my best friends.
His exact words today? "that they are all un armed, is total stupidity"
But with exceptions, those being bases with nukes on board, I believe that military bases, are pretty much gun free zones, I am not even certain they can keep personal weapons even in their separate base housing.
Of course the CO changes every couple of years, and they got one that hated guns, and he had the fields shut down and dozed over. What was an odd deal, that at that time, one of the men tasked to "demil" those fields, (under extreme protest) became after he retired in 95, one of my best friends.
His exact words today? "that they are all un armed, is total stupidity"
But with exceptions, those being bases with nukes on board, I believe that military bases, are pretty much gun free zones, I am not even certain they can keep personal weapons even in their separate base housing.
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Re: They're soldiers..they should be ARMED!!!!!
They can not have guns in their houses. They have some sort of civilian armory that, they all have to take their guns to. If they want to go shoot they gave to go sign them out
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