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Absolutely No Profiling! Pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice test.
These events are actual events from history. They really happened! Do you remember?
1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by:
a. Superman
b. Jay Leno
c. Harry Potter
d. A Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40
2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by :
a. Olga Corbett
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old, American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
a. The Smurfsb. Davey Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens , and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
a Captain Kidd
b.. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a. Bonnie and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone,particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security
screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people. They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former
Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest they be guilty of profiling. Yeah thats the ticket.
God help us all
These events are actual events from history. They really happened! Do you remember?
1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by:
a. Superman
b. Jay Leno
c. Harry Potter
d. A Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40
2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by :
a. Olga Corbett
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old, American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
a. The Smurfsb. Davey Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens , and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
a Captain Kidd
b.. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a. Bonnie and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone,particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security
screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people. They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former
Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest they be guilty of profiling. Yeah thats the ticket.
God help us all

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I believe that profiling has saved countless lives in the past and we should still do it. Especially these days.
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Joe B. wrote:If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck shoot the duck.
Makes perfect sense to me, Joe! Wish it was that easy!
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It is if you are duck hunting. And if we ever declare open season on muslims. Before they finish taking over the world.Volzfan wrote:Joe B. wrote:If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck shoot the duck.
Makes perfect sense to me, Joe! Wish it was that easy!
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the last time we did that we had 3 crusades and then we didn't hear from them for another 900 years.
I kinda like that idea...
I kinda like that idea...
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I don't care what religion it is, there is only one effective way to deal with religious nutcase terrorists!!
And why the US government and many americans can't seem to get through their thick heads is you can not buy friends and you can not appease nut cases.
And why the US government and many americans can't seem to get through their thick heads is you can not buy friends and you can not appease nut cases.
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Sometimes you guys leave a person with absolutely nothing to add.
I vote for Joe's solution.
I vote for Joe's solution.
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Well it is a safe bet that this politically correct BS is gonna get more Americans killed. As for open season i'm 110% for it. The current administration is so pro Muslim it is unreal. Look at the record
this ass hat is a Muslim for sure. Time he left the oval office, and i really don't care if he walks away or is carried out ust get him gone.
this ass hat is a Muslim for sure. Time he left the oval office, and i really don't care if he walks away or is carried out ust get him gone.
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While I truely believe that we have to consider "profiling" in air travel, they will have to do it in a proper manner.
I would hate to see it come to pulling out everyone with brown skin in the line.
It takes a pretty good eye, to differentiate races by physical features. It can be done by someone on a pretty good rate, but they are going to make a few mistakes now an then.
And I think THAT is what everyone fears.
Now, if they profile on the basis of the person meeting all the criteria, including a foreign passport, or those carrying a rug along with them, and the age group yeah, do a double take.
I would hate to see it come to pulling out everyone with brown skin in the line.
It takes a pretty good eye, to differentiate races by physical features. It can be done by someone on a pretty good rate, but they are going to make a few mistakes now an then.
And I think THAT is what everyone fears.
Now, if they profile on the basis of the person meeting all the criteria, including a foreign passport, or those carrying a rug along with them, and the age group yeah, do a double take.
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Ron, when I see folks like that, I don't just do a double take, I do a very careful once over and leave my weather eye on em just to be sure.
The majority of Muslims that I know are good folks. They don't want trouble and don't make trouble. The problem comes when their brethren of their faith misbehave. These folks make absolutely no effort to stop them or dissuade them, on the whole.
I know a blond haired blue eyed Lebonese girl..you'd never think she was middle eastern until she opened her mouth.
sometimes it's hard to figure out who's who and what's what...but we'd better get a handle on it or there's going to be lots more trouble..that's for sure.
The majority of Muslims that I know are good folks. They don't want trouble and don't make trouble. The problem comes when their brethren of their faith misbehave. These folks make absolutely no effort to stop them or dissuade them, on the whole.
I know a blond haired blue eyed Lebonese girl..you'd never think she was middle eastern until she opened her mouth.
sometimes it's hard to figure out who's who and what's what...but we'd better get a handle on it or there's going to be lots more trouble..that's for sure.
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I think we are on the same page, I have no doubt there are what I call "jack muslims" that could care less about a literal read of their book.
Enough do though, that its a major headache that the world has to deal with.
I never knew until just a few years back, the numbers of Japanese that got hauled off to camps, those camps were all over the west, tens if not hundreds of thousands were interred.
I asked Dad once , why we never did that with the German Americans, I have to think and believe, pure and simple, is that they "looked American"
Of course had they done that, they would have locked up about half of everyone in the midwest.
Enough do though, that its a major headache that the world has to deal with.
I never knew until just a few years back, the numbers of Japanese that got hauled off to camps, those camps were all over the west, tens if not hundreds of thousands were interred.
I asked Dad once , why we never did that with the German Americans, I have to think and believe, pure and simple, is that they "looked American"
Of course had they done that, they would have locked up about half of everyone in the midwest.
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I agree...and also I think the whole "stab them in the back with a surprise attack" thing had a serious impact. Attacks on sovereign soil have a tendency to do that.
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Speaking of being cynical, if my son in law, who btw is a DI at MCRD is any evidence, the younger generation believes FDR knew in advance, and we have both heard or read that theory too.
Just making note of how the younger generation considers a somewhat modified version of the events, or at least modified from what I was told as a kid.
I dont really know when the "sneak attack being already known" started being widely told. I suppose it was always in the background by the conspiracy followers, probably like the 9 11 conspiracy bunch, or the ones saying we never went to the moon.
Just making note of how the younger generation considers a somewhat modified version of the events, or at least modified from what I was told as a kid.
I dont really know when the "sneak attack being already known" started being widely told. I suppose it was always in the background by the conspiracy followers, probably like the 9 11 conspiracy bunch, or the ones saying we never went to the moon.
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I say profile em, little old white ladies with curlers in thier hair didn't comment the crimes on 911, Muslim male extremists did. So I say to hell with em, if they don't like coming into our country after all they've done to us and being looked at like terrorists then maybe they should go back to herding sheep in the dried up wasteland where they came from.
I'm so tired of hearing of people coming to America (legally or otherwise) and complaining. If you don't like it get out of the U.S.A.
I'm so tired of hearing of people coming to America (legally or otherwise) and complaining. If you don't like it get out of the U.S.A.

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